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wildpig1234
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GuyM wrote:
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Triple axle times 4....lol ;)

Now we are talking heavy haulage! Maybe enough axles for a cat D11? [...]


Wildpig1234,

Nice US heavy haulage set!

Guy


thanks for the earlier inspiration...lol... I am trying to order a nooteboom low trailer with 10 axles. but i guess in practice, you can get unlimited axles when you go to trailers designs based on SPMT
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 6:11:45 AM
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Building in progress of a mid-seventies US road combination:



Mack CL WS 712 LST 6x4/2 tractor (modified IMC model) and Utility Superstar 40' 2-axle reefer 40ft semi-trailer (Conrad model being modified)



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Guy
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 6:17:49 AM
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GuyM wrote:
Trailor tipping semi-trailer (MiniCams kit), now part of Jean-Jacques' 1/50 Tama construction company fleet [...]


Other Renault tractor (MiniCams) towing a 1-axle flatbed semi-trailer (Minitrucks kit):







Regards.
Guy
wildpig1234
Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:44:07 AM
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GuyM wrote:
Building in progress of a mid-seventies US road combination:



Mack CL WS 712 LST 6x4/2 tractor (modified IMC model) and Utility Superstar 40' 2-axle reefer 40ft semi-trailer (Conrad model being modified)


Regards.
Guy


Sad to no longer see flat nose cab in the US anymore
GuyM
Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2021 7:01:45 AM
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wildpig1234 wrote:
thanks for the earlier inspiration...lol... I am trying to order a nooteboom low trailer with 10 axles. but i guess in practice, you can get unlimited axles when you go to trailers designs based on SPMT


Wildpig1234,

The only 1/50 10-axles conventional (extendable or not) low bed semi-trailers I know are, either Conrad Goldhofer units (top - difficult to find these days) or Broshuis (bottom) from WSI: never heard of any 10-axle conventional Nooteboom model (unless it is "modular" with 6-axle rear module, ultra-low bed and 4-axle integrated dolly).

http://www.cranesetc.co.uk/library/conradreviews/72176/72176review.htm

https://fmb-shop.de/shop/en/9605/410232-wsi-kenworth-t800-4axle-with-broshuis-10axle-low-loader-mammoet

As far as length of low bed units is concerned, most of conventional Europeans units seem to be limited to 10 axles, while modular heavier units can easily achieve up to 20 lines or more (Cometto, Faymonville, Goldhofer, Kamag, Nicolas or Scheuerle products mainly). Limitation seems to be axle suspension travel on cambered roads, resulting in localized lines overload (that's probably why UK companies favor girders trailers for road heavy haulage):





On flat surfaces like shipyards, there is no theoretical limitation (with loads heavier than 5000 tonnes being moved), neither for conventional modular trailers (now very seldom used - see picture below), nor for SPMTs (the norm, today):



Top and center pictures from the German "Hansebube Forum", bottom picture "probably" B. Tuck.

Regards.
Guy

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GuyM
Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2021 9:26:39 AM
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GuyM wrote:
[...] On flat surfaces like shipyards, there is no theoretical limitation (with loads heavier than 5000 tonnes being moved), neither for conventional modular trailers (now very seldom used - see picture below), nor for SPMTs (the norm, today) [...]


It seems that today the world record for a transport on wheels is held by ALE (now part of the Mammoet Group): they moved in June 2017 on 600-line SPMTs (arranged in 6x2 80-line plus 2x2 60-line modules) the sunken Sewol ferry off a recovery barge in South Korea: https://www.khl.com/news/ale-claims-spmt-record/1127731.article

I hope this helps.
Guy
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wildpig1234 wrote:
This is the one i am talking about [...]


The model you mentioned is a 3+7-axle PL2 Broshuis low loader produced in 1/50 scale by WSI.
Here below are 3+7 PL2 110+ tonnes-capacity unit (European) specs:



Cheers.
Guy
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Forklift delivery in Germany built with a vintage Corgi Toys trailer (originally loaded with a small plane and towed behind a Land-Rover 4x4 pick-up):





IVECO Eurocargo 80 E 21 4x2/2 light truck fitted with a sheeted dropside body (modified Conrad model) and Fara GmbH TAP 100/62 2-axle dropside low bed trailer (modified Corgi model, to be painted) carrying a Linde H25/--- 4x2/2 forklift (Siku model)





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Guy
GuyM
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Two farming sets produced at very low price in a 1/50 scale by the Italian Bburago:





- left: Massey-Ferguson 8740S 4x4/2 farm tractor and unknown brand 2-axle tipping trailer (modified Bburago models),
- right: Massey-Ferguson 8740S 4x4/2 farm tractor and Kuhn LSB 1290D 2-axle square baler (modified Bburago models).

To be continued.
Guy

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To be continued.
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Guy
wildpig1234
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Are these models you post in 1/50 or another scale?


I just got this behemoth of a lowboy trailer. Was half mortified when i received the box in the mail....lol.... The width is slightly more than twice that of the regular trailer. The thickness of the deck is nearly a person's height!

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Are these models you post in 1/50 or another scale?


I just got this behemoth of a lowboy trailer. Was half mortified when i received the box in the mail....lol.... The width is slightly more than twice that of the regular trailer. The thickness of the deck is nearly a person's height! [...]


Wildpig1234,

To answer your first question, Bburago Massey-Ferguson farm tractors and equipment are in a 1/50 scale.

I agree with you, the mining Towhaul lowboy is huge, when compared to road-going units.
Here is a link to the various models made: https://towhaul.com/en/lowboy
The larger 1-axle unit (RGS450) is able to carry mining units up to 450 Tons (the Terex 6040 shovel being the heaviest with 449 Tons).
Towhaul are offering 2-axle mining lowboys as well, capable of moving inside mining premises equipment like the Hitachi EX 8000-6 shovel of 910 Tons.

I hope this helps.
Guy
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GuyM wrote:
wildpig1234 wrote:
Are these models you post in 1/50 or another scale?


I just got this behemoth of a lowboy trailer. Was half mortified when i received the box in the mail....lol.... The width is slightly more than twice that of the regular trailer. The thickness of the deck is nearly a person's height! [...]


Wildpig1234,

To answer your first question, Bburago Massey-Ferguson farm tractors and equipment are in a 1/50 scale.

I agree with you, the mining Towhaul lowboy is huge, when compared to road-going units.
Here is a link to the various models made: https://towhaul.com/en/lowboy
The larger 1-axle unit (RGS450) is able to carry mining units up to 450 Tons (the Terex 6040 shovel being the heaviest with 449 Tons).
Towhaul are offering 2-axle mining lowboys as well, capable of moving inside mining premises equipment like the Hitachi EX 8000-6 shovel of 910 Tons.

I hope this helps.
Guy


Now you really motivate me to try to find the 2 axle one although i dont think i will see one but maybe someone will make a custom one but it will probably cost so MUCH...lol....

Yeah, really enjoy looking at all your trucks and farm stuffs. I am more of big hauler /crane person....lol...
GuyM
Posted: Sunday, October 31, 2021 5:39:06 PM
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[...] Now you really motivate me to try to find the 2 axle one although i dont think i will see one but maybe someone will make a custom one but it will probably cost so MUCH...[...]


Wildpig1234,

I'm afraid that only 1-axle Towhaul units have been produced so far in a 1/50 scale: https://www.towhaulstore.com/index.php/scale-model
According to the Towhaul Store site, that is the RGS 225-48-20 low bed semi-trailer of "only" 225 tons capacity, towed by a Caterpillar 784C mining truck.

So you will have to turn to the Code 3 market to get one of their 2-axle units, or more probably build it yourself, sorry!

Regards.
Guy

GuyM
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GuyM wrote:
Two farming sets produced at very low price in a 1/50 scale by the Italian Bburago [...]


Two more combinations from the same model company:





- left: Fendt 1050 Vario 4x4/2 farm tractor and AGCO Corp./Fendt Former 801 1-axle dual tilting rotors swather (modified Bburago models),
- right: Fendt 1050 Vario 4x4/2 fram tractor and Grimme HL 750 1-axle single-track potato harvesting unit (modified Bburago model).

To be continued.
Guy
GuyM
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The Fendt farm tractor and its swather produced by AGCO for the German manufacturer:







To be continued.
Guy
GuyM
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The "small" single-track potato harvester from the Belgium manufacturer wide range of equipment:







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Guy
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wildpig1234 wrote:
Are these models you post in 1/50 or another scale?


I just got this behemoth of a lowboy trailer. Was half mortified when i received the box in the mail....lol.... The width is slightly more than twice that of the regular trailer. The thickness of the deck is nearly a person's height!



The late Rainer Markgraf, Had a specail Towhaul low boy produced for his collection, It WAS a monster, A special three axle low boy with its own engine haulled by a three axle Cat 797, Apparently Towhaul did have this machine on their drawing board but none ever made carrying capacity was 1500 tons or 3 million pounds, I'll just post this link as not wanting to share an actual photo from his collection,

1500 ton Towhaul

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Joe.
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