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Max you are observant and obviously very familiar with this zinc rot. Do you know the actual cause of this problem. I know members have said it has a lot to do with inferior materials, is that the only reason. Could it be caused by climate or moisture or could these factors even speed up the process of the rot. This could be a problem because I would hate to move my wife into the basement and bring the collection up into the warm and dry bedroom. Any information would be appreciated.
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I don't know the exact causes, but I do know it is a problem at the foundry that casted the parts. There is nothing you can do to fix it, AFAIK once the parts show signs of rot, it's just a mater of time. I have read that keeping the model in a dry cool place can help to slow down the deterioration, I don't know for sure. This was one of my Hitachi 870. Some parts are fine while others are not. One side of tracks was destroyed while the other was perfectly fine. 
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Max thanks very much for that information. That’s a shame about your models, nothing WSI can do for you in this case? As for my case I hope my wife likes the basement.
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maxcavator wrote:It's not hard to do, I have a WSI Deere 870G that was never released, And there it is! Though I was told it was an 850. You are lucky to have one  Paul R
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Have WSI ever commented on the Hitachi 870 zink rot issue?.
These are models many people spent their hard earned money on and for them to just fall to pieces in such a catastrophic way is pretty poor!.
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Paul R wrote:maxcavator wrote:It's not hard to do, I have a WSI Deere 870G that was never released, And there it is! Though I was told it was an 850. You are lucky to have one If you just do a repaint, then yes, you have to make it an 850 to keep it looking accurate. I went the extra effort and cut/reshaped the model in several places to make it a more accurate 870G. Those Deere models were not a WSI production.
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Are there any other models out there that have this problem as much as the Hitachi 870? I had not even heard of this. I talked with Chuck today and he was shocked. CAW
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Quinella wrote:Are there any other models out there that have this problem as much as the Hitachi 870? I had not even heard of this. I talked with Chuck today and he was shocked. CAW I’ve not come across any other WSI models with this issue. But other manufacturers such as Lion Toys have had it. I’ve a trailer that just fell apart. I’m frankly surprised that you said Chuck was shocked at this. The 870 is well known to have this issue and Chuck normally has his finger on the pulse. Paul R
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I do too, that's a well known problem with some of the earlier models. The parts are so brittle, an Oreo is harder to break. This is my second worse WSI 870. I have to admit it kinda made me be very skittish about buying big ticket items made by WSI. I know problems and mistakes do happen but pretending they don't exist is a problem in my opinion... WSI dropped the ball on this one. 
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Aargh!It's so horrible,to see those pics.That machine,in all those pieces.I am terrified of looking at the ones I have in the loft.They have never been opened,since being delivered.I am hoping they are alright.
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I am rebuilding that one, you will never know it happened. I made a new aluminum base and I am replacing affected parts with scratch built ones.
I have another set of tracks from Erick P (CCM brand).
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Horrible....I feel sorry for the owner.
I checked mine today. Both the Mammoet and the normal excavator are allright.
But for how long?
I knew this kind of problem existed but on an NZG model. A CAT D4 is concerned.
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I may need to open that ocean traders one again I guess
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Have any of you, that have this problem with the WSI 870, contacted WSI? Surely they would step in and offer some compensation. With so many going bad, and different versions and different owners, it's obvious there is a problem. I would think WSI would help. we do have some leverage. CAW
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I have two First Gear Mack Granites with the same problem.
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Quinella wrote:Have any of you, that have this problem with the WSI 870, contacted WSI? Surely they would step in and offer some compensation. With so many going bad, and different versions and different owners, it's obvious there is a problem. I would think WSI would help. we do have some leverage. CAW I did several years ago. I never got a reply.
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maxcavator wrote:Quinella wrote:Have any of you, that have this problem with the WSI 870, contacted WSI? Surely they would step in and offer some compensation. With so many going bad, and different versions and different owners, it's obvious there is a problem. I would think WSI would help. we do have some leverage. CAW I did several years ago. I never got a reply. Do yo still buy WSI products? Do you know who owns WSI? Perhaps Chuck could help. Is there a US rep that anyone knows? How mad are we. My Mammoet cost $550.00. If it goes bad, I will go after them to the extent possible. Everyone should too. This is absurd. I hope they follow the Forum!!!!
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Quinella wrote:maxcavator wrote:Quinella wrote:Have any of you, that have this problem with the WSI 870, contacted WSI? Surely they would step in and offer some compensation. With so many going bad, and different versions and different owners, it's obvious there is a problem. I would think WSI would help. we do have some leverage. CAW I did several years ago. I never got a reply. Do yo still buy WSI products? Do you know who owns WSI? Perhaps Chuck could help. Is there a US rep that anyone knows? How mad are we. My Mammoet cost $550.00. If it goes bad, I will go after them to the extent possible. Everyone should too. This is absurd. I hope they follow the Forum!!!! I am in agreement with you we spend some good cash on some models. They expect payment for product we expect the same in product in return.
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So let me get this right. Now we have self disintegrating models? How soon can we expect the manufactures to offer us warranty protection, at an affordable price of course! Then again, this could be a business opportunity for us. I could start up an insurance company with some partners. Q, Ken, Steve, and others, are you interested? By the way I have all those models and now I’m afraid to stare at them too long. Mike
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