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Here are a couple of pictures of the new IH lowboy. I am impressed with it, and highly recommend any one of them. I prefer the 520 over the 620 cab, looks more"old school" to me, and the price can't be beat! Contact DHS to get one! Ken IMG_1740 by Ken Wheeler, on Flickr"/> IMG_1741 by Ken Wheeler, on Flickr"/> IMG_1744 by Ken Wheeler, on Flickr"/>
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My contribution to the topic: Regards. Guy
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Great pics guys, and thanks for posting them. Is or will the trailer with jeep and stingers be available in black?
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So my question is...
Is this a legal configuration in some states?
Chuck
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admin wrote:So my question is...
Is this a legal configuration in some states?
Chuck
Long story short, yes the IH 520 tractor, jeep, trailer, and 2 axle stinger can haul a Cat 349 in most Midwest and Eastern states. The catch here is, you can only carry the amount of weight supported by the number of axles you have on the ground, and the bridge law which varies in a lot of states. Most states will allow you 20,000 an axle. A handful of states will not give you 80,000 on 4 unless you have a stinger (booster) and want the weight spread with a jeep and booster. The West Coast has a completely different set of rules. A 4 axle tractor and 4 axle trailer= 20-20-20-20 20-20-20-20 = 160.000 lbs. The weight of a heavy duty tractor and trailer is approx. 50,000 lbs. Payload would be 110.000, right on the money for a 55 ton trailer. Mind you, it is going to be closer to 100,000 because it is hard to axle out perfectly and also get 20,000 on the steer axle. I am assuming the XL trailer is a 60 ton trailer. The IH 620, trailer and single axle stinger would be: 15-20-20-20, 20-20-20. 20 =155,000. Empty weight of 55,000 equals payload of 100,000 Here is the new IH 520 with a jeep and 1 axle stinger: 15-20-20 20-20 20-20-20 20 = 175,000 Empty weight is approx 75,000 = Payload 100,000 2 axle stinger: 15-20-20, 20-20, 20-20-20, 20-20 = 195,000 with a payload of 110,000-115,000 The tandem axle tractor, three axle trailer, and one or two axle stinger in this case doesn't help you unless you have more weight to the rear like a scraper that is over the 3 trailer axles. This set up was designed with a trailer neck for a tandem axle trailer and the short neck extension was added for the 4 axle 620 tractors. In my opinion the jeep was an after thought, and the trailer neck needs to be longer and up tight to the jeep neck to get maximum weight on the tractor. But, in the model world, this is fine as it is close. I am just glad to see it produced. Lake Michigan States you can have 25,000-26000 an axle. On this DM setup, 15-20-20, 20-20, 20-20-20, 20-20 you could gross 240,000 lbs. with a payload of 130-140,000. Here again, if the trailer is a 60 ton, only 120,000 can be hauled. In the pictures, The cat D9 could be hauled where I live on that set up. The FE 45 weighs around 109,000 - 115.000 if I remember right and could be hauled with a single or tandem axle stinger. Ken
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Quite nice lines,on the tractor unit.Good looking unit,altogether.Much better looking,when loaded,though.
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Ken and Guy thanks for the pictures, your set ups look good. How do you like the detail on the jeep, it looks good in your pictures. Steve
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GuyM wrote:My contribution to the topic: Regards. Guy Thanks for posting Guy.
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Exkvate3140 wrote:Ken and Guy thanks for the pictures, your set ups look good. How do you like the detail on the jeep, it looks good in your pictures. Steve Your welcome Steve. The jeeps are very nice and spot on for accuracy and size. There is a tightening screw in the bottom of the 5th wheel, and looks like if loosened, it will slide all the way forward to the neck. Here is a picture hooked to a Sword Pete. 5 wheel pin needs to be modified to fit the Pete. IMG_1751 by Ken Wheeler, on Flickr"/>
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Ken thanks for the close up on the jeep, is the Hieght of the fifth wheel correct on the jeep, it looks a bit high. Also does the landing gear unscrew down or is it fixed. Overall it does look good. Steve
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Exkvate3140 wrote:Ken thanks for the close up on the jeep, is the Hieght of the fifth wheel correct on the jeep, it looks a bit high. Also does the landing gear unscrew down or is it fixed. Overall it does look good. Steve I recall someone saying that you cannot ask Ken too many questions. Wonder who that was? Thank you Ken for helping us as usual. I don't yet have the lowboy or jeeps, stingers. I do love the tractor with a Sword Rogers. I got to go lay down again. Ate Caesar's Salad last night and have been up all night. It must have been made in Rhode Island. Ete tu Brute?CAW
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OMFNC, us dog guys hang together, it’s the people who own gerbils who are limited to one question a week, and we know you own gerbils, you keep them next to your sheep. If you listened to the news at all you would know to stay away from the romaine lettuce plus the fact that your body can’t adjust going from Twinkies and whiskey to something that my be good for you. The only food we would send you from RI are the eggs that the roosters lay. KGFRI
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Thanks for the pics. DHS called today my red one is on the way. I also bought a red and white models with the stingers and extra 3 axle tractors.
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My red rig showed up last night! Rob
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Guys nice shots of the jeep, are any of you going to modify the king pin. I did on mine, now I have to get rid of the screw hole on top, I think that takes a lot away from an otherwise nice jeep. Thanks Steve
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Exkvate3140 wrote:Guys nice shots of the jeep, are any of you going to modify the king pin. I did on mine, now I have to get rid of the screw hole on top, I think that takes a lot away from an otherwise nice jeep. Thanks Steve What modification did you have in mind? Position or type of pin for other tractors? FWIW, I'm not planning on any mods to mine.
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RobS wrote:My red rig showed up last night! Rob Rob, I like that backdrop picture, is that custom made wallpaper ? Stephane
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Ironstef70 wrote:RobS wrote:My red rig showed up last night!
Rob
Rob, I like that backdrop picture, is that custom made wallpaper ? Stephane Hello Stephane, Thanks for the compliment. This is a panoramic stitched photo that I specifically shot for this purpose. I had it printed large and mounted it on a sheet of foamcore. If I do it again, I'll make it wider! Someone else in another post has already correctly guessed it to be the BP Whiting plant in NW Indiana. An hour from my house in light traffic. A couple of years before this they had a Liebherr LR13000 on site. Impressive for sure! Rob
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RobS, that screw looks ridiculous, I put a kingpin in like the Sword and WSI models use. It is just a brad, but it looks much more realistic. You have to reduce the size of the hole also. When I get around to it I also have to ground down those unsightly holes that they screwed into. Also it will fit Sword and WSI tractors. Steve
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Exkvate3140 wrote:RobS, that screw looks ridiculous, I put a kingpin in like the Sword and WSI models use. It is just a brad, but it looks much more realistic. You have to reduce the size of the hole also. When I get around to it I also have to ground down those unsightly holes that they screwed into. Also it will fit Sword and WSI tractors. Steve Ah, yes I completely agree. I thought you meant the jeep kingpin. No issues with it, right? Rob
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