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Quinella
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:04:45 PM

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Gents; I have been arguing with collectors for 20 years about the exact scale of the matchbox/Dinky 1956 Mack B-61 in orange livery AND the 1955 Mack B-61 in McDonald's livery. I KNOW the scale is 1/50th. However, so many sellers on Ebay and others list the scale at 1:43, and some even say it's 1:64th. Chime in here and tell me what you think. I want this settled. The certificate inside the boxes says 1:50th. These scale out to 1/50th also. So what do you think? CAW
GuyM
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:37:59 PM
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Craig,

I suppose that you refer to this model:



I agree with you: the scale is 1/50.
As it is a Dinky Toys, people tend to think - wrongly - that everything produced by the British company was in a 1/43 scale, like their late cars. Lots of models, produced before 1960, were in fact in a 1/48 scale or even smaller. When Matchbox took-over Dinky, they produced very few 1/50 scale models, the "Reiseburo Ruoff" Mercedes-Benz coach being one of these.

I hope it helps.
Guy
Barkerjoh
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 12:50:35 PM

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At one point in my life I do recall having a 1/64th scale of this model. I played with that thing forever. if I can find it I will try to post a pic. But it was 1/64th. back on topic that mack is 1/50th though.
Quinella
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:31:15 PM

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Yes, these Dinky Macks came in smaller scales, usually with trailers from companies like Pennzoil...etc. I cannot remember those scale Macks, but I'm thinking 1:87th. My post here is specifically regarding these orange Macks, and the red McDonalds 1955 Mack. They are 1:50th. Matchbox Dinky also made some 1:58 trucks like the Kenworth w900, the Pete 379, the Freightliner COE, and the red Mack CH. Also in this older 1:50 series are the 1939 Peterbilt in red and black, and the Diamond T in blue and white. These also did not come with a trailer. All models are fantastic. CAW

Guy: Can you hook me up with Dan's Models for one of those Mack Cabovers? Craig
GuyM
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 1:54:08 PM
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Ctaig,

Here is the link to Dan Models website: http://www.miniatur-models.com/models.html

You could get these items from Tekno as well, but apparently they are out of stock these days: http://www.tekno.nl/nl/webshop/dan-models.html

I don't know if DHS Diecast have any of these Macks, though; I suppose that you should try to find them in the US first.

I hope it helps.
Guy
rlmc
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 2:13:49 PM
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I measured my MACK using the distance across the rear of the cab as a comparison. The dimension of the real truck should be approximately 70 1/2" according to the brochure information.That should be 1.41" in 1:50 scale. The model measures 1.392" which is pretty close to 1:50. Actually 1:50.7 scale.

Robert
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One of my favorites. I measured it out to 1/50 scale.Whistle Smile Teeth








Barkerjoh
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 3:54:35 PM

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BAD NEWS fellas I will admit it as long as my wife doesn't find out. I am admitting I was wrong. The item I thought was a 1/64 mack is actually not a mack it looks more like a White. Yep I said it I was wrong. shhhhhhhhh. Question how do we get photos again on here so I can post.
Exkvate3140
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 5:04:14 PM
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Craig if you goggle dimensions of a 1956 Mack B-61 it will give you the actual measurements in inches. Better yet I will email you the page along with directions on how to use a tape measure, so you understand what the real little lines mean.
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Quinella
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:14:15 PM

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Exkvate3140 wrote:
Craig if you goggle dimensions of a 1956 Mack B-61 it will give you the actual measurements in inches. Better yet I will email you the page along with directions on how to use a tape measure, so you understand what the real little lines mean.
Steve


Hey turkey: If you are going to rib me, at least learn how to spell. It's "google", not "goggle". I'll teach you how to bait a hook next. CAW
Quinella
Posted: Friday, September 21, 2018 8:18:26 PM

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Barkerjoh wrote:
BAD NEWS fellas I will admit it as long as my wife doesn't find out. I am admitting I was wrong. The item I thought was a 1/64 mack is actually not a mack it looks more like a White. Yep I said it I was wrong. shhhhhhhhh. Question how do we get photos again on here so I can post.


barkerjoh: You sure you're not talking about the Speccast White WC22? If so, that is also 1:50th scale. Does it have the butterfly hood that opens? It's smaller than these Macks!!
Exkvate3140
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Craig I had my wife type that response in for me because I was busy doing something. I will relay your displeasure about the spelling to her, once I’m done flogging her. That is your second correction for me in as many days, I thought you were retiring.
Steve
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Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2018 3:39:07 PM

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Quinella wrote:
Barkerjoh wrote:
BAD NEWS fellas I will admit it as long as my wife doesn't find out. I am admitting I was wrong. The item I thought was a 1/64 mack is actually not a mack it looks more like a White. Yep I said it I was wrong. shhhhhhhhh. Question how do we get photos again on here so I can post.


barkerjoh: You sure you're not talking about the Speccast White WC22? If so, that is also 1:50th scale. Does it have the butterfly hood that opens? It's smaller than these Macks!!


Here is what I was wrong about. I thought they were mack but I was wrong.









RMS Models
Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:02:31 PM

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Barkerjoh,

That looks like a Winross model to me !
Barkerjoh
Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:51:54 AM

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RMS Models wrote:
Barkerjoh,

That looks like a Winross model to me !


Not quite sure what brand they are I haven’t done much research on them. I know I had these as a kid which I got them at a yard sale then say I was 5-6 years old so 30 years ago. Anyone ever see these before.
Quinella
Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 2:25:15 PM

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AHAH!!!! We have a mystery on our hands. Randy has created a whodunit mystery. So, the first guy that can prove who made "barkerjoh"'s truck gets a free WSI product from Chuck's gracious heart. Thanks Chuck. You make this hobby so much better. So I say, Winross may be right. But it could be an old Matchbox or Midge toy. Who's next? CAW
WCollins
Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:42:19 PM

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That's definitely a Winross White 9000, judging from the color it might have been once attached to a Preston trailer, but in reality they've made so many different variants in so many different colors without any logos on the tractor theres really no way of telling what set it's from. I've got quite a few of these, they're pretty nice all metal trucks.


(Pic.Credit Jim Brandt/Truckhobby.com)

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Barkerjoh
Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:56:09 PM

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Thanks Bill for th clarification. Had them for quite sometime. Lord knows I put miles on them
Exkvate3140
Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:09:14 PM
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Craig that might be a Hatteras Sport Fisher, and you don’t think i know anything about fishing. Boy were you wrong.
Just have Chuck send that gift to RI.
Steve
Quinella
Posted: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:29:56 PM

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Looks like we have a winner. I never collected Winross, so I don't know much about them. Chuck, go ahead and send the gift to WCollins. Exkavate, why don't you make a heavy hauler with a yacht trailer and boat. That's the closest you will ever get to the water. CAW
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