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modelmaniac
Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 6:05:40 PM

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The bucket,on that machine looks like one from a Joal Akerman H7mc/EW200.Are those machines about the same,size/weight?
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:48:22 AM
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Guy what a great job he did on that, especially the hydraulic pistons to work the gears for the tires
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 2:49:24 AM
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Guy what a great job he did on that, especially the hydraulic pistons to work the gears for the tires.
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:31:16 AM
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modelmaniac wrote:
The bucket,on that machine looks like one from a Joal Akerman H7mc/EW200.Are those machines about the same,size/weight?


modelmaniac,

The Pingon built by Jean-Francois is a 14B. I couldn't find any data for this machine but here is a brochure for the 14C, very similar to the 14B:



Drawing on the bottom right corner indicates 7.04 metres overall (bucket and arm included).

A link to Akerman EW200 specs: https://www.volvoce.com/-/media/volvoce/global/global-site/product-archive/documents/06-wheeled-excavators/01-akerman/a-ew200/a-ew200-232-0011-9505.pdf?v=KiEyPw

I leave it to you to decide, but I suspect that these 2 excavators were working in the "same league".

I hope this helps.
Guy
modelmaniac
Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 11:59:23 AM

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Interesting machine.Looks really good loading that Berliet tipper.Is that the only one that swings,like that with the wheels raised?I have only ever seen 'walking' draglines with a similar mechanism.Never seen it on a wheeled excavator.
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 1:51:28 PM
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modelmaniac,

I think that Pingon was the only company going that route in terms of wheeled excavator architecture.
The design allowed for a very quick move from road to work condition (a few seconds, as per their advert), helped to move on uneven grounds (which is not obvious, considering its high center of gravity when on wheels!); its stability in operation resulted in a high productivity and up to 26 different attachments could be used: grab and conventional buckets, shovel, ripper, lattice boom extensions, etc.

Pingon excavators became part of IBH (owner of Hanomag) in 1979, while P.J. Pingon created during the seventies the Mecalac company, known worldwide today for their multi-purpose, compact and versatile equipment: https://www.mecalac.com/en/products.html

I hope this helps.
Guy
Exkvate3140
Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 10:02:48 PM
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Guy besides this beauty Jean-Francois has built, have there ever been any built by diecast companies.
Steve
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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 5:03:09 AM
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Steve,

I think that Mantova Modelli (Italy) and ATM (France) produced in the past the 14C version in a 1/50 scale.
Below, the MiniCams 14B (on the left) and the ATM version (on the right side):



I suspect these 2 resin models to be pretty rare these days. As you can see, the ATM model was produced with different equipment: https://www.constructionscalemodels.com/en/copy-of-pingon-sitting-bull-12014c-wheel-excavator or https://www.constructionscalemodels.com/en/copy-of-pingon-sitting-bull-12014c-wheel-shovel
Picture from "Pingon-Richier Blog": https://pingon-richier.skyrock.com

Regards.
Guy

Exkvate3140
Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 8:07:34 PM
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Guy thanks for the information.
Steve
GuyM
Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 5:07:53 AM
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Somewhere in France in the sixties, dirt road maintenance operations involving an old Richier road roller and a Bernard 2-axle tipper:









To be continued.
Guy
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Guy
RMS Models
Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 9:09:21 AM

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GuyM,

Do you know the model manufacturer of the Richier roller?

Thanks !
GuyM
Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 10:48:42 AM
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RMS Models wrote:
GuyM,

Do you know the model manufacturer of the Richier roller?

Thanks !


The Richier roller was built by Jean-Jacques from a Minitrucks kit.
As you know, J.J. Ehrlacher from Minitrucks has ceased producing and trading models: you will have therefore to rely on the second-hand market for one of those.

I hope this helps.
Guy
GuyM
Posted: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:34:00 AM
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At the very top of the Poclain equipment range, both excavator and shovel versions of the 1000-2 unit:









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Guy
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Posted: Sunday, January 26, 2020 6:40:16 AM
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Far less impressive but also major contributors to the success of the hydraulics approach in digging and lifting activities, some more Poclain machines:









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Guy
modelmaniac
Posted: Sunday, January 26, 2020 11:34:46 AM

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I have seen a Poclain 90 excavator,truck mounted on a Berliet 6 wheel(3 axle) chassis.Looks really nice.Do you have any pics of that machine?
GuyM
Posted: Sunday, January 26, 2020 11:59:18 AM
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modelmaniac,

I know about this one:



The 90 excavator (then named 90F) could also be mounted on a 6x4/2 truck. See the 90F on a 3-axle Berliet in an article from P. Duarte's blog, dedicated to Poclain machines (in French, sorry): http://www.ec1000.net/article-7360475.html

Link to Pascal "EC1000" blog: http://www.ec1000.net/

I hope this helps.
Guy
Exkvate3140
Posted: Sunday, January 26, 2020 4:38:31 PM
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Guy do you know how and why Poclain and Case became involved with each other.
Steve
Weserhutte
Posted: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:40:24 PM
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GuyM wrote:
I know about this one:



Guy


Hi Guy,

Isn't this a TP30/TP300?
GuyM
Posted: Monday, January 27, 2020 5:11:03 AM
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Weserhutte,

Yes, it looks like a TP 30 fitted on a Berliet truck. Same equipment installed on Renault 4x2 and GMC 6x6 trucks can be seen here: http://www.generationdeux.fr/pageshtml/pagemateriels.html

I hope this helps.
Guy
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