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kcmtoys
Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 2:16:22 PM

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Working on a Cat 583 Wreckmaster in Hulcher Livery.


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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 2:41:57 PM

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Impressive !
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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 3:19:26 PM
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Once again, great work Ken! We will watch as the work progresses. Mike
kcmtoys
Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 3:29:20 PM

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Thanks Randy, Mike. Starting to paint components today. I have got a little re-arranging to do and just a couple of parts to make yet. Once I got started I added more features than I planned on. d'oh! Whistle



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Posted: Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:13:46 PM

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I had no idea you had these skills up your sleeve! This is really cool.
Ironstef70
Posted: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:24:18 AM

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Great work, and interesting project.

So, how do you make the connection between brass and diecast white metal (like the boom's plate, or the levers boxes), other than screws? Epoxy?

S.

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kcmtoys
Posted: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:32:16 AM

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Dex wrote:
I had no idea you had these skills up your sleeve! This is really cool.


Thanks Dex. I learned how to solder lead telephone cables at the phone company in the late 60's - 70's. i have been building custom models since 1994.
kcmtoys
Posted: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:34:39 AM

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Ironstef70 wrote:
Great work, and interesting project.

So, how do you make the connection between brass and diecast white metal (like the boom's plate, or the levers boxes), other than screws? Epoxy?

S.


I have tried soldering numerous times with no success. I try to pin everything and attach with epoxy,or attach with 0-80 or 0-90 brass screws, or steel button head screws.
The tool box is attached with screws, the cage has pins that go into the deck with epoxy, and the control panels have brass pins in the bottom that go into the deck and attached with epoxy. The torch bottle bracket is attached with 0-80 button head screws. The same with the winch.

JTL
Posted: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:55:19 AM

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Holy Moly! That is a beauty!
Did you post a few pics of a compleated trainwreck Cat awhile back?

Are you an enviromentist, or do you work for a living?
kcmtoys
Posted: Friday, January 26, 2018 2:01:38 PM

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JTL wrote:
Holy Moly! That is a beauty!
Did you post a few pics of a compleated trainwreck Cat awhile back?


Thank you. Yes, those pictures were of Rod Cross's 572 Wreck-master.


Ironstef70
Posted: Friday, January 26, 2018 2:14:11 PM

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kcmtoys wrote:
Ironstef70 wrote:
Great work, and interesting project.

So, how do you make the connection between brass and diecast white metal (like the boom's plate, or the levers boxes), other than screws? Epoxy?

S.


I have tried soldering numerous times with no success. I try to pin everything and attach with epoxy,or attach with 0-80 or 0-90 brass screws, or steel button head screws.
The tool box is attached with screws, the cage has pins that go into the deck with epoxy, and the control panels have brass pins in the bottom that go into the deck and attached with epoxy. The torch bottle bracket is attached with 0-80 button head screws. The same with the winch.



All right, that's also what I do. Soldering die cast metal won't do good and will just melt.

It seems to have a fusion point that't in between brass and soldering lead. And I don't think lead can hold on die cast metal anyways.

Looks awesome.

Stephane

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Posted: Friday, January 26, 2018 3:16:02 PM

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I love the look of that Brass work!

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kcmtoys
Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2018 1:59:54 PM

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Thanks Ethan.
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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:11:24 PM

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The details on this are amazing, I wish I had the skills to pull off custom builds like this. I know it takes practice but I think anything I try ends up looking like a "Plonker" model.

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Posted: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:26:51 PM

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89cxsport wrote:
The details on this are amazing, I wish I had the skills to pull off custom builds like this. I know it takes practice but I think anything I try ends up looking like a "Plonker" model.


Ah, Plonker Models. Whatever happened to them?

This is a fantastic creation - almost seems a shame to paint it all.
kcmtoys
Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2018 1:05:16 AM

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Ironstef70 wrote:
kcmtoys wrote:
Ironstef70 wrote:
Great work, and interesting project.

So, how do you make the connection between brass and diecast white metal (like the boom's plate, or the levers boxes), other than screws? Epoxy?

S.


I have tried soldering numerous times with no success. I try to pin everything and attach with epoxy,or attach with 0-80 or 0-90 brass screws, or steel button head screws.
The tool box is attached with screws, the cage has pins that go into the deck with epoxy, and the control panels have brass pins in the bottom that go into the deck and attached with epoxy. The torch bottle bracket is attached with 0-80 button head screws. The same with the winch.



All right, that's also what I do. Soldering die cast metal won't do good and will just melt.

It seems to have a fusion point that't in between brass and soldering lead. And I don't think lead can hold on die cast metal anyways.

Looks awesome.

Stephane


Thank you. The first A.Smith I tried to solder, I burned a hole through the roof!Whistle The whole problem is white metal, lead, and zinc have a lower melt point than the brass. I have a resistance soldering unit that has adjustable heat, and even that is tricky on white metal. I have never been able to solder zinc to zinc either.
kcmtoys
Posted: Sunday, January 28, 2018 1:09:53 AM

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Thanks 89cxsport and Jamiescotland, I often thought about leaving one bare metal. I have a 1/64 brass D8H that came unpainted, and it is still unpainted.
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Posted: Monday, January 29, 2018 1:12:50 AM
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Looking good Ken.

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