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I have wanted one of these for a while. I hope it will not be too hard to assemble.  IMG_20170830_172834881 (1) by Ethan Cinatl, on Flickr
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If you need any help or info on the kit,, you have my info,, and dont worry if you bugger up a part,lmk, i can make more,lol... happy building,,
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Are these identical to the old Alan Smith versions? Q
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Q yes these are the same as ASAM... as i have the masters and molds for all of ASAM amertican models.. only difference is that i change the metal mixture to help with the softness issue he had,, so time will tell if i need to change it again or not,,
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What amalgam are you using, and are you spin or pressure casting these now?
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all of ASAM models are spin cast parts,, other than the tires,which is pressure molded,
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Weserhutte wrote:What amalgam are you using, and are you spin or pressure casting these now? I dont want to give up my amalgam, for everyone to see..
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The 627E looks pretty good loaded up. The kit was not too hard  IMG_20170904_195938481 by Ethan Cinatl, on Flickr I don't know if we are legal but it looks good.  IMG_20170904_195817495 by Ethan Cinatl, on Flickr  IMG_20170904_195709436 by Ethan Cinatl, on Flickr How about some older stuff?  IMG_20170904_195438310 by Ethan Cinatl, on Flickr
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Basketball Man,
Did you assemble the scraper trailer in true A. Smith fashion by soldering or did you utilize an adhesive?
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RMS Models wrote:Basketball Man,
Did you assemble the scraper trailer in true A. Smith fashion by soldering or did you utilize an adhesive? I Cheated on this one. Adhesive to the rescue. I am working on moving right now, all of my soldering supplies are in one of these boxes. 
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As I recall, and don't hold me to this, these trailers cannot carry a twin engine scraper. Weight is too much. I think it's time for a new scraper trailer, more like you see in 1/64 scale on one website. Then someone has posted some real pics of these on the Forum. I watched a film of one being loaded and unloaded. It's neat. CAW
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In the Great Lakes States, you can scale a 627, a 631 is too heavy. Gross weight of 162 - 165,000 allowed. Keen used to have a whole fleet of these.
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Q do you have any pictures of the bigger scraper trailer, want to see if i can modify my kits to handle the larger ser scrapers,,, any info would be great
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Dumper wrote:Q do you have any pictures of the bigger scraper trailer, want to see if i can modify my kits to handle the larger ser scrapers,,, any info would be great The bigger scrapper trailers are made by Murray, and only good for the West Coast States. The big difference is the 8 tires per axle. http://www.murraytrailer.com/photos.html
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kcmtoys wrote:Dumper wrote:Q do you have any pictures of the bigger scraper trailer, want to see if i can modify my kits to handle the larger ser scrapers,,, any info would be great The bigger scrapper trailers are made by Murray, and only good for the West Coast States. The big difference is the 8 tires per axle. http://www.murraytrailer.com/photos.htmlTHANKS KEN, yea i cant help with those,,,
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i had seen these in 1/64th. They are not the Murray or West Coast style, but they look to be larger than the Smith version. http://www.toytrucking.com/custom/lowboy-trls.html
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There is a Murray scraper basket in 1/50 made by the model mechanic on shapeways. It uses the 16 tire configuration but It is 3d printed so strength is not it's greatest attribute. I have a 1/64 version and they are very detailed. Still no asam though
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The 16 tire arrangements you see on Cozad and Murray trailers are good for 60k when they're 10' wide. A Murray scraper trailer (or as Murray calls it a "Jeep and basket dolly") can haul a 651.
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Some of the old timers will remember when you moved dozer pulled scrapers with the dozer and the front tires of the scraper on the lowboy and and the rear scraper tires on the pavement. Maybe KCM TOYS has some pictures of this type of move. I have done several model shows with 1/16 scales models displayed in this manner. In the early 1960`s another very different way to transport scrapers was done by a very large construction company here in Ohio. They had very short tandem axle lowboy trailer just long enough to get the power unit on the trailer and the rear scraper tires were on the pavement. The company was V.N.Holderman. Again maybe KCM Toys can recall this type of set up and may has some pics of this type of set up.
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DumpsterToy wrote:Some of the old timers will remember when you moved dozer pulled scrapers with the dozer and the front tires of the scraper on the lowboy and and the rear scraper tires on the pavement. Maybe KCM TOYS has some pictures of this type of move. I have done several model shows with 1/16 scales models displayed in this manner. In the early 1960`s another very different way to transport scrapers was done by a very large construction company here in Ohio. They had very short tandem axle lowboy trailer just long enough to get the power unit on the trailer and the rear scraper tires were on the pavement. The company was V.N.Holderman. Again maybe KCM Toys can recall this type of set up and may has some pics of this type of set up.
Dave, I don't have any pictures with the rear scraper wheels on the ground. Around Northern IL, IN, and WI Cats and Pans were used more of the time. A lot of companies used a truck tractor with a block of concrete on the fifth wheel to tow the scrapers. (today, DOT would have a field day with this practice). Some used a tow truck if they had one. I have a drawing of a Fruehauf and a Talbert Scraper Trailer that has the dolly under the rear of the scraper instead of a basket. 
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