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Fellers: What is the hauling capacity of that Rackley two axle 16 tire lowboy. I can't find it anywhere. The three axle 12 tire version is 45 tons. Plus, does the Tonkin version look small with a 1:50 scale truck? CAW
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Not a Rackley but same style so I'm assuming its the same capacity as the Rackley. The trailer fits very well against the 1/50 trucks. http://www.murraytrailer.com/images/new/Professional/Professional_small.pdf
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I don't think I've ever seen one out my way, are these mainly a west coast item?
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44 tons is gross for a "16 tire" as we call them you can haul a d8, 38 metric ton excavator. And a 980 would also be a suitable load. Tonkin is okay it a bit small but I have been talking to a guy that may be doing 3d printed version. Hope this helps Chris
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Quinella, I have one 1:53 Tonkin Rackley behind a 1:50 scale Norscot Peterbilt and it looks allright for me:    The only thing I did was to get the bed flat as I thought that it was too much "arched up" for a loaded trailer. Cheers. Guy
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Most states don't recognize 16tires for what they are. They were drempt up in california to help with length laws. The only states that don't look at them as a two axle are CA,AZ,NV,and maybe Oregon. In california and neighboring states you can still get 44 tons. But new mexico, Colorado, utah will only give you 35 tons. Good ol california and there goofyness. Chris m. Oh and the rear axles spread also for wider loads via air cylinders, most are ment for rear loading but can be detached in a matter of minutes. Most of the guys that use them in our yard load them from the dock so they don't have to "cowboy" over the rear or detach...Wich is mechanical.
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Thanks guys. I really wish someone would do a west Coast trailer like a Cozad. And more four axles would be nice. That Rackley you show just looks too short and I thought it might take more than 45 tons. I'll stick with rogers and Talbert, Trail King for the time being. I appreciate the help. CAW
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CatD11T wrote:From what I've heard the tonkin was actually made larger than 1/53 scale to fit with more trucks. It fits pretty well with 1/50 scale trucks but! if you buy it off the shelf and expect to use it like that you might as well toss it in the garbage. The arch is WAY too high especially to work with a sword truck - I did a bit of fiddling with mine to make it sit relatively straight. It's a pretty short lowboy, I think it has 21' deck. These pictures all have loads that I am pretty sure are legal (well maybe not the wirtgen). These trailers are mostly seen in the west, for some reason the northeast doesn't really recognize the 8 tire/axle setup. Ignore the background stuff, I just shoved it all to the side for these photos. Unfortunately they are a little washed out.  Adam, where did you get the skip loader from?
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I've always been amazed at how lenient the north east is with heavy haul loads and over size loads. Just the other day I saw a very large brand new CAT excavator I think it was a 320E but not sure, it was being hauled by a tandem drive on a tandem gooseneck low boy.
A few days before that I saw a brand new CAT mining dump truck being hauled on by a tandem drive with pusher Peterbilt 389 and a 4 axle low boy only missing the wheels and tires. Dump body on and all. This thing was massive. There was a Pete behind it with lights and an over size sign and a tri axle Pete wrecker was the lead truck with lights and sign.
In all my hours on the road every day I see a lot of heavy haulage in NH and 95% of it is 3 and 4 axle low boy trailers and very few have lead and tail vehicles.
I saw a CAT 374E being delivered to a local construction company's shop in 4 loads, tracks, stick, counter weights and car body/chassis. They assembled it and a few days later it was delivered to the job by a tri axle Pete 389 on a 4 axle low boy.
NH is very lenient on road weight laws and over size loads.
I haul concrete all day for a living, 76k lbs fully loaded on a 4 axle Oshkosh front discharge mixer on all super singles.
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We have 3 Murray Trailers and we love them because they are so light. We can scale 92,000 on the one and the trailer weighs in the neighborhood of 13,500 pounds. The other thing is we load the excavators over the back all the time which makes it really fast and a lot easier. Most of our work is in really high end neighborhoods that are extremely tight and have neighbors that don't want any construction once their house is in. With our Murray we are able to back right up to the edge of the drive and get the machine off without touching the pavement and get out before they have a chance to get too upset =) These are pics of a typical move for us that I had on my phone. Enjoy   
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A Cat 320 isn't a large excavator, it barely qualifies as a medium excavator
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Nice pics Dirtdude - as always, your yellow T800's look great in that AZ sunshine!
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The 16 tire lowbeds are the thing out here. We can be 65' long with a 21' deck and get a 92,000 payload on 5 axles if the right trailer is used.
The widening of the axles to 10' is not just for wide loads, but for more weight. 54,000 when closed, 60,000 when spread open.
The lightweight trailer is part of the payload ability. As DirtDude says, 13,500 lightweight on the trailer is a fair bit lighter than most trailers.
Loading is quick as well, with at least 9 out of 10 loads going over the rear, and over half without even using ramps.
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DeWoc that's why I said "I think" because I was passing the truck at about 70mph. It was large enough that the tracks were wider then the trailer and it was taking up the whole tandem axle trailer front to back. Might have been a medium sized machine but I'm so used to seeing tri axle low boys it was unusual to see a machine that size on a tandem. Seems like everything goes on a 3 or 4 axle low boy around here.
My biggest question is why done we have trailers like the Drake swing wing and Tuff Trailers Widener in the USA? Seems like they would make a killing with that setup over here.
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